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					<description><![CDATA[<p>In this powerful sermon on Moses’ encounter with the burning bush, Pastor Mark explores how God calls, equips, and frees us—not just for our own sake, but for the liberation of others. What does it mean to follow a God who still speaks through fire, equips the unsure, and values interdependence? Read the full sermon and reflect on what it means to be called—together.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We continue our journey through the Narrative Lectionary, which moves us to the book of <em>Exodus</em> today. We have been in the book of <em>Genesis</em> since the beginning of September.</p>
<p>In many ways, we can think of the book of <em>Genesis</em>—the creation stories, the story of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and Joseph—as kind of prequels to this story in <em>Exodus.</em> Because, in many ways, this is the foundational story—the foundational text of our faith tradition—as well as that of our Jewish brothers and sisters, and that of our Muslim brothers and sisters as well.</p>
<p>The story of Moses meeting God in the burning bush and being called to confront Pharaoh&#8230; to let the people of Israel out of their bondage in Egypt.</p>
<p><strong>Exodus 2:23-25; 3:1-15; 4:10-17</strong></p>
<p><em>After a long time the king of Egypt died. The Israelites groaned under their slavery and cried out. Their cry for help rose up to God from their slavery. God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. God looked upon the Israelites, and God took notice of them.</em></p>
<p><em>Moses was keeping the flock of his father-in-law Jethro, the priest of Midian; he led his flock beyond the wilderness and came to Mount Horeb, the mountain of God. There the angel of the Lord appeared to him in a flame of fire out of a bush; he looked, and the bush was blazing, yet it was not consumed. Then Moses said, “I must turn aside and look at this great sight and see why the bush is not burned up.” When the Lord saw that he had turned aside to see, God called to him out of the bush, “Moses, Moses!” And he said, “Here I am.” Then he said, “Come no closer! Remove the sandals from your feet, for the place on which you are standing is holy ground.” He said further, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God.</em></p>
<p><em>Then the Lord said, “I have observed the misery of my people who are in Egypt; I have heard their cry on account of their taskmasters. Indeed, I know their sufferings, and I have come down to deliver them from the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land to a good and spacious land, to a land flowing with milk and honey, to the country of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. The cry of the Israelites has now come to me; I have also seen how the Egyptians oppress them. Now go, I am sending you to Pharaoh to bring my people, the Israelites, out of Egypt.” But Moses said to God, “Who am I that I should go to Pharaoh and bring the Israelites out of Egypt?” He said, “I will be with you, and this shall be the sign for you that it is I who sent you: when you have brought the people out of Egypt, you shall serve God on this mountain.”</em></p>
<p><em>But Moses said to God, “If I come to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your ancestors has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ what shall I say to them?” God said to Moses, “I am who I am.” He said further, “Thus you shall say to the Israelites, ‘I am has sent me to you.’ ” God also said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the Israelites, ‘The Lord, the God of your ancestors, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you’:</em></p>
<p><em>This is my name forever,<br />
</em><em>and this my title for all generations. </em></p>
<p><em>But Moses said to the Lord, “O my Lord, I have never been eloquent, neither in the past nor even now that you have spoken to your servant, but I am slow of speech and slow of tongue.” Then the Lord said to him, “Who gives speech to mortals? Who makes them mute or deaf, seeing or blind? Is it not I, the Lord? Now go, and I will be with your mouth and teach you what you are to speak.” But he said, “O my Lord, please send someone else.” Then the anger of the Lord was kindled against Moses, and he said, “What of your brother Aaron, the Levite? I know that he can speak well; even now he is coming out to meet you, and when he sees you his heart will be glad. You shall speak to him and put the words in his mouth, and I will be with your mouth and with his mouth and will teach you what you shall do. He indeed shall speak for you to the people; he shall serve as a mouth for you, and you shall serve as God for him. Take in your hand this staff, with which you shall perform the signs.”</em></p>
<p>For the Word of God in Scripture,<br />
For the Word of God among us,<br />
For the Word of God within us,<br />
Thanks be to God.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">***</p>
<p>When Dave Muir was born in 1961, the doctors predicted that he would be some kind of athlete—maybe a football player—because even as a newborn, he had these strongly defined muscles. He was like a jacked little baby.</p>
<p>But as his mother observed him as he grew, she started to notice some things. When he started to walk as a toddler, he would do this weird thing where his foot would halt before he fully put it down. Then one day he was playing, but he couldn&#8217;t get himself up off the floor. And these instances kept occurring, to the point where Dave’s parents began to worry. So they took him to see the doctor.</p>
<p>And the doctor ran some tests and then broke the news to them: their young boy, Dave, had muscular dystrophy.</p>
<p>So the doctor explained the prognosis. Eventually, he would not be able to walk or breathe on his own. Even his heart—that all-important muscle—would cease to work on its own one day.</p>
<p>The doctor said that he probably wouldn&#8217;t live past the age of 12.</p>
<p>Dave’s parents took the news hard, of course. But Dave—Dave was not deterred.</p>
<p>When he was in elementary school, he was in a wheelchair, and at playtime he got his friends to push him as fast as they could to clear that ditch in the playground—then again toward the berm so that he could catch some air in his wheelchair. Even in the hallway between classes, he would have his friends race him down the hallway, calling out to everybody, “Watch out! Watch out!”</p>
<p>The principal seemingly had his parents on speed dial.</p>
<p>In addition to being a little bit rambunctious and a bit of a troublemaker, Dave was also an unstoppable communicator. That&#8217;s a nice way to put it. His dad called him a “motor-mouth.” He loved to talk, to debate, to laugh.</p>
<p>In fact, when he was in high school—yes, high school, well beyond his original prognosis—he threatened to sue the school’s administration because they had not provided a ramp, even though the law required it of them. And so, at his behest, they put one in.</p>
<p>But in his twenties, the muscular dystrophy began to affect his breathing. He needed a tracheostomy to breathe. But it took away his ability to communicate.</p>
<p>Still, he would not be deterred.</p>
<p>He got an idea: if you put a valve in the tube that would act kind of like a door—releasing air or keeping it trapped—you could recreate the pressure that is necessary for your vocal cords to make sound. And so, with the help of an ENT specialist, this ended up being the <strong>Passy-Muir Valve</strong>, which is still in use today, giving hundreds—even thousands—of people their voice back.</p>
<p>Dave writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;I learned many things from this experience. I learned that anger, if turned toward a problem rather than toward oneself or circumstances, can be overcome. And God can work wonders. Indeed, just as I thought God had turned his back on me, He, in reality, gave me an incredible opportunity to help myself and others.&#8221;</p>
<p>Our passage today—God hears the pleas of His people and God speaks to Moses from a burning bush.</p>
<p>It starts with the Israelites suffering under slavery, writes Justin Michael Reed. The severe oppression goes beyond slavery when Pharaoh commands genocide against the newborn boys. At the start of our passage, the tyrannical king has died, but the oppression continues. It’s now become systematic. And therefore <em>Exodus</em> says:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Israelites groaned under their slavery and cried out to God.&#8221;</p>
<p>And God tells Moses that He has heard this cry and is sending him to the new Pharaoh to demand to free the people.</p>
<p>But Moses, you’ll notice, has questions.</p>
<p>First, he asks, “Who am I that I should go?” The implication being that Moses is nobody. It’s not really important. He’s not a prince of Egypt or a hero of Israel. He’s just some guy who was caught in between.</p>
<p>But God tells Moses not to worry. He promises:</p>
<p>&#8220;I will be with you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Next, Moses objects because he’s afraid that people are going to ask God’s name. And Moses doesn’t know it. You kind of get the impression that Moses just wanted to know it anyway—he’s kind of using this as a bit of an excuse. He’s like, “So… you know… tell me your name.”</p>
<p>So God reveals the divine name to Moses:</p>
<p>&#8220;I Am who I Am.&#8221;</p>
<p>God tells Moses, “Tell them <em>I Am</em> sent me to you.”</p>
<p>That should keep them occupied for a while—parse that sentence.</p>
<p>Finally, Moses brings out his big objection. He says, “God, I think you’ve overlooked something in this plan. I’m really not good at talking to people.”</p>
<p>The text is a bit vague, but the Hebrew literally means:</p>
<p>“I am of heavy mouth and heavy tongue.”</p>
<p>You can see why scholars and rabbis have theorized through the years that Moses maybe had some sort of speech impediment. And that’s the way they expressed it—&#8221;I am of heavy mouth and heavy tongue.&#8221;</p>
<p>So God responds that Moses doesn’t have to go it alone. Aaron will be there to help him—to speak this truth to power.</p>
<p>So there’s this <strong>interdependence</strong> that’s part of God’s plan.</p>
<p>Sarah Wolf explains that this interdependence is not <em>beside</em> the point—it <em>is</em> the point. God is thus simply explaining to Moses that just like God can’t and doesn’t speak directly to most people, so too Moses does not have to do all the speaking himself. God not only reassures Moses that he will have support, but also admits to Moses that God’s own role requires assistance, too.</p>
<p>I think Robert Williamson summarizes our passage for today this way. He says:</p>
<p>“The way God works in the world, it seems, is through people like Moses, who pay attention when things are on fire in the world and don’t ignore them or run away. But even Moses—one of the heroes of scripture—is at first afraid to do what God asks of him, begging God to send someone else, anyone else. Yet it turns out that this God of ours is an <strong>equipping God</strong> who gives Moses what is needed for the task ahead of him: a staff, a partner, even the divine name.”</p>
<p>During a major renovation of our sanctuary in the late 1950s, a wooden sculpture was added—it’s just out of my sight over here—that is a depiction of the burning bush and the divine name.</p>
<p>So this passage has special meaning for us as a congregation who, for over 60 years, has worshipped with that sculpture in our space. It reminds us of those who have gone before us. It reminds us of our grounding in God’s story. It reminds us that God’s revelation is not “once upon a time,” but is <strong>ongoing</strong>. God is still speaking—sometimes in ways that are just as strange as that.</p>
<p>And so it also reminds us to keep asking: <em>Who is God calling us toward today? And how is God equipping us for the task at hand?</em></p>
<p>I would say it reminds us of a theological reality too—and that is that the eternal work of God is the work of <strong>liberation</strong>.</p>
<p>Famed liberation theologian Gustavo Gutiérrez writes:</p>
<p>“The God of <em>Exodus</em> is the God of history and of political liberation.”</p>
<p>So that God calls Moses to go to Pharaoh and say, “Let my people go”—it’s not a surprise, right?</p>
<p>But what might catch us off guard, what we might not always notice in the story, is that in order to do that, <strong>God must first free Moses</strong>. Free him from self-doubt and pity. Free him from what others have labeled as a disability. And God also frees Moses of this notion that he has to go it alone—to show him that he is, in fact, dependent on others.</p>
<p>And this <strong>interdependence is a good thing</strong>. It’s a really good thing.</p>
<p>Desmond Tutu, the renowned South African Anglican bishop and social rights activist, once stated:</p>
<p>“My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together.”</p>
<p>This powerful quote encapsulates the interconnectedness of individuals and emphasizes the significance of our shared humanity. It calls upon us to recognize that our well-being and our fulfillment are deeply intertwined with the well-being and fulfillment of others.</p>
<p>Friends, today is the last Sunday that we are going to worship in this sanctuary <em>as it is.</em> For the next several weeks or so, we will worship downstairs in our assembly hall while work is done to make this space more accessible, more open, and more friendly for all of God’s children.</p>
<p>A big part of our renovations over the past several years has been about making our building ADA accessible and making sure that people who have abilities that are labeled as different from the norm are made to feel welcome and valued <strong>just as they are</strong>.</p>
<p>This place where I am standing now is the last place in our building—literally—that is not ADA accessible. And so I cannot overstate the importance of the ramp that we are putting up here.</p>
<p>It’s not just a structure. It is the <strong>physical embodiment of who we want to be—who we believe God is calling us to be</strong>.</p>
<p>But like Moses, we’ve had our reservations and our objections along the way. There’s been self-doubt, other priorities, and that ever-present temptation of the <strong>status quo</strong>.</p>
<p>Yet God’s call has persisted.</p>
<p>And in seeking to invite and welcome others, in responding to God’s call—maybe, I hope—we have found our own sense of God’s grace deepening as well.</p>
<p>We have experienced God equipping us.</p>
<p>We have experienced our vision expanding.</p>
<p>We’ve grown our ministries.</p>
<p>And through it all, we’ve learned what Moses and Dave Muir and Desmond Tutu know:</p>
<p><strong>We are all connected.</strong><br />
Our freedom and our well-being are inseparable.</p>
<p>You know what?</p>
<p>In a world that seems to increasingly believe the lie that we’re different because of where we come from, or where we’re born, or the color of our skin, or our socioeconomic status—in a world that believes that lie and wants us to live in that lie—it seems to me that as people of faith, we have a story to tell and a truth to proclaim.</p>
<p>Yes, with our voices—but also with our actions.<br />
And yes, even our <strong>building</strong>.</p>
<p>That we are connected.<br />
That we are all God’s children.<br />
That each and every one of us are recipients at a table of grace.</p>
<p><strong>May we find the courage to speak and to live this truth.</strong><br />
And let our hymn now be our prayer and our call.</p>
<p><strong>Amen.</strong></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Dive deeper into Pastor Mark’s sermon on Moses’ call and God’s liberating presence. This guide is designed for individual reflection or group discussion, with thoughtful questions about faith, calling, accessibility, and our collective journey toward justice and inclusion.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Scripture: </strong><em>Exodus 2:23–25; 3:1–15; 4:10–17<br />
</em><strong>Main Themes:</strong> Calling, Liberation, Divine Presence, Interdependence, Accessibility, Courage in Faith.</p>
<p><strong>Discussion Questions</strong></p>
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<li><strong> God Sees, Hears, and Responds</strong></li>
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<ul>
<li>In Exodus, we’re told that God <em>heard</em> the Israelites’ groaning and <em>took notice</em> of them.</li>
<li>How does this picture of a listening and responsive God impact your understanding of who God is?</li>
<li>Where do you see God noticing suffering in today’s world? Where do you hope God is noticing?</li>
</ul>
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<li><strong> Divine Calling and Self-Doubt</strong></li>
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<ul>
<li>Moses expresses deep doubts about his ability and worthiness—“Who am I?”</li>
<li>Have you ever felt unqualified or afraid when called to something new?</li>
<li>How do you respond to the idea that God equips us for the work we’re called to? What does that look like in your own life?</li>
</ul>
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<li><strong> I Am Who I Am</strong></li>
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<ul>
<li>God reveals the divine name to Moses as “I Am Who I Am.”</li>
<li>What do you think this name means? How does it speak to God’s nature?</li>
<li>How does the mystery of God’s identity deepen or challenge your faith?</li>
</ul>
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<li><strong> Interdependence as Strength</strong></li>
</ol>
<ul>
<li>Moses isn’t alone in his calling—God provides Aaron to help. Pastor Mark highlighted this as <em>the point</em>, not just a solution.</li>
<li>How do you see interdependence at work in your life, family, or community?</li>
<li>How might we better celebrate and embody interdependence in the life of our church?</li>
</ul>
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<li><strong> Modern Liberation and Accessibility</strong></li>
</ol>
<ul>
<li>Pastor Mark connected the Exodus story to RPPC’s capital campaign and the importance of making our sanctuary physically accessible.</li>
<li>What does liberation look like in our context today?</li>
<li>How is God calling us—as individuals or as a church—to help remove barriers for others?</li>
</ul>
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<li><strong> Faith in Action</strong></li>
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<ul>
<li>“We are all connected,” Pastor Mark said. “Our freedom and our well-being are inseparable.”</li>
<li>How can you live out this truth in the week ahead?</li>
<li>What are tangible ways we as a church can proclaim, through word and deed, that <em>all are welcome</em>, and all are beloved?</li>
</ul>
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<li><strong> Closing Reflection</strong></li>
</ol>
<ul>
<li>Like Moses, we may hesitate or feel unworthy, but God still calls and equips.</li>
<li>What specific courage or next step do you feel nudged toward this week</li>
<li>How can you support someone else who might be wrestling with their own sense of calling or inclusion?</li>
</ul>
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